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Originally Posted by Bob K (Post 132471)

My vehicles are registered to my wife and myself. Maybe a friend is driving it. How can they write me a ticket? Gordon, say whatever you want to about safety, but this is bullshlt. Same for the speeding cameras.

My blood just boils when I read this crap. How long before 'big brother' is in our house?

1) The company will issue the citation the the primary owner, or first on the title (IIRC).

2) I never said it was about safety (read the links).
I said "IF" it proves worthwhile, then I can support it.
If not it needs to go!

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 132473)

Probably just a baseless rumor, but I heard a while back that phones and even your cable TV are actually bidirectional with audio. Heck, I remember seeing devices sold that you could hook up to your home phone that would allow you to silently call in and be able to monitor the inside of your house remotely. With computers being in just about everything, do you REALLY know all of the circuitry in them and the coding being processed? Do you really think NSA would TELL us about this little "perk" of the current day "connected" society?

This is one of the reasons I don't use a cell phone. I have one for emergencies, but it is NEVER turned on unless I have to make an immediate call out. I just don't care to broadcast my whereabouts to anyone.

But for the most part, if you don't believe that "Big Brother" is already here, you are being pretty naive.

But you'll use a computer and drive a new car?:shrug01::lmao:
BTW- There is technology out there that can track your phone with it off...or so I'm told by a friend of mine that doesn't exist:lmao:

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Originally Posted by Bob K (Post 132476)

Now I am getting really pissed. Just thinking about what you just said. Cookies, you know what they are. The other stuff I can't remember right now that enables these companies to track your every movement on the computer. How about the computer in your car that will record your every movement and speed.

1) Use a proxy server.
2) Use the "in private" browsing function of windows.
There are a few other things you can do to lessen the way companies track computer usage.

The auto computer is a bit inaccutate.

The CDR only records a segment of time prior at or around the incident it's set off.
There's some other chit in cars that give the dealerships an idea what you've been doing with your car, but IIRC, you can disable most of those.
You'll void your warranty, but WTF, at least they won't know what you're doing;)

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Are you ready? I think we need to form an army and revolt. :mad:

Hold on, let me grab the tinfoil......

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 132478)

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But you'll use a computer and drive a new car?:shrug01::lmao:
BTW- There is technology out there that can track your phone with it off...or so I'm told by a friend of mine that doesn't exist:lmao:

Sorry Gordon, guess I hit a nerve concerning cell phones. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 132480)

Sorry Gordon, guess I hit a nerve concerning cell phones. :rolleyes:

I don't care if someone knows my location but getting my personal info is another matter. You just got me cranked up. :D

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 132478)

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But you'll use a computer and drive a new car?:shrug01::lmao:
BTW- There is technology out there that can track your phone with it off...or so I'm told by a friend of mine that doesn't exist:lmao:

So how could a cell phone be beaconing without any power applied to it? I'm not talking about it just being idle waiting for a call, I'm talking about OFF. As in no power being applied. But I guess many folks with cell phones don't even know you CAN turn it off..... :lmao:

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 132480)

Sorry Gordon, guess I hit a nerve concerning cell phones. :rolleyes:

WTF is :rolleyes: all about:shrug01:
No nerves with me.
I use it, feel free to track it.
If you want to know where I'm at, or where I'm going, get in the f**king car!:lmao:

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Originally Posted by Bob K (Post 132482)

I don't care if someone knows my location but getting my personal info is another matter. You just got me cranked up. :D

Nothing's really "personal" these days. It's just a matter of how far you want to dig, how much you want to spend, and what you're willing to risk to gain the information;)

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Originally Posted by Rich Z (Post 132483)

Time for a little edumacation I reckon?
Here ya' go:

http://www.brighthub.com/electronics...les/51103.aspx

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Warrantless cell phone tracking has been a part of the US government as long as there have been cell phones, and cell phone companies are forced by law to hand over any amount of control over these cell phones as either the state or federal government desires. This is for certain once the authorites have a good case for probable cause, and somewhat more borderline if they haven't gone ahead and gotten a proper warrant. This includes location data for tracking purposes. There is a possibility that the FBI does such tracking independently of the phone company, but this is rather difficult to verify.

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...This doesn't mean they're tracking everyone in the US at all times; only a few Big Brother theorists will make that claim. However, they do have the resources to actively track and analyze many many people at once, and they use this capability frequently for purposes of tracking criminals and suspects.

NSA ring a bell?

And of coures, when a better mousetrap is designed, we just design a better f**king mouse:D

Defeating the bug:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html

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Originally Posted by Bob K (Post 132471)

Bob, We had these back in Ohio where I came from.
The red light camera citations are civil, not criminal. Since it is your car, they feel that you are responsible. ("Don't lend your car to an irresponsible driver, or get the fine money from them.") That's why these don't put "points" on your license. I don't know if they share the information with your insurance company.
Some cameras also take a picture of the driver through the windshield. (Get a Rick Scott mask.) ;)

John,
Just FYI Bob K and Shadow are no longer members here so dont expect a response.

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Originally Posted by ButWhatDoIKnow (Post 150805)

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...-Deception.jpg

Nobody said you would like the change, or that the change would be GOOD CHANGE.

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Originally Posted by chris308 (Post 132414)

Kenneth city installed a few just recently and i got nailed for making a right turn on a red light w/o making a complete stop. Luckily for me, it was during the initial start up time and it was only a warning notice i received in the mail.

Needless to say, i make sure i come to complete stops now when i go see my folks!:thumbsup:

X2 here. made a right onto 58 street form 54th ave and got a warning.:thumbsdown:

nice pic of my car though:thumbsup: