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07-07-2007, 08:25 AM
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I just spoke with my girlfriend (she manages a large apartment complex here in Tampa) and she said that you are basically out of luck. The fact that there have been complaints, and the generic wording of the lease.
She suggested offering a compromise, something like the car cover suggestion, I saw in another post, but it sounds like there's already too much bad blood that it probably won't work.
Yes, you could possibly file 1st ammendment complaint or something of that nature and cause them lots of grief. Of course that would tie up a lot of your time and resources also.
You can park it in my driveway..and even use a hose to wash it .. I won't evict you!
p.s. she saw the artwork in Mary's video. She thought it was cool..although she said ahemmm... "it wouldn't look good on your car"...I can take a hint..44 years old and finally learning to read between the lines...
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07-07-2007, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sglfladad
I just spoke with my girlfriend (she manages a large apartment complex here in Tampa) and she said that you are basically out of luck. The fact that there have been complaints, and the generic wording of the lease.
She suggested offering a compromise, something like the car cover suggestion, I saw in another post, but it sounds like there's already too much bad blood that it probably won't work.
Yes, you could possibly file 1st ammendment complaint or something of that nature and cause them lots of grief. Of course that would tie up a lot of your time and resources also.
You can park it in my driveway..and even use a hose to wash it .. I won't evict you!
p.s. she saw the artwork in Mary's video. She thought it was cool..although she said ahemmm... "it wouldn't look good on your car"...I can take a hint..44 years old and finally learning to read between the lines...
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The wording of the lease agreement may in fact work against the complex as well. I'd take it a little further and ask for substantiative evidence, in other words, the complaints, number, nature and frequency.
As DAD points out though, if the complex has sole discretion, then you might be out of luck on the lease. Being tied up in litigation is NOT what apartment complexes really want or need. They don't need the adverse publicity either (*hint-hint*) The local news may enjoy this one There's no liability for doing so either since you're excercising your right to free speech and not stating anything that can not be substantiated. The focus of the article or tv segment would be how the aoartment complex has choosen to exervise its prudish "right" to evict over your 1st ammendment right to speech.
I'd again try to work something out 1st, but if they persist, I look at it this way. If this joker is going to cause me to go to the expense and effort to move, I'm going to give her all the aggravation and paperwork she can handle....and dump it on her with a payloader!
Remember, the pen truly is mightier than the sword
BTW, I work with attorney's on matters such as these on a daily basis. Do a lot of eviction and HOA violation work (for the HOA's and apartment complexes) and I wouldn't give up without a fight
I wouldn't give up without a fight.
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07-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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Location: Sarasota
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Are we talkin' about pictures of mostly-nekkid ladies? Pictures that could not be shown on TV for fear of violating the FCC obscenity rules? Picures of ladies "dressed" so that, if real ladies were walking down the street that way, they would be arrested for indecent exposure?
If so, IMO it is at the least tacky to have these painted on your car. I don't blame people for complaining, and I don't blame the complex for acting on those complaints. It's an apartment, you're living cheek-by-jowl with other people, you have to make certain compromises when you decide on apartment living. Or buy a townhouse...or a condo...or a house with a homeowner's association...etc.
You don't have a 1st Amendment right to be "obscene". While I don't personally agree with that interpretation of the phrase "no law", that's what the Supreme Court says. Reasonable restrictions can be placed on "obscene" speech by governments, and private property owners have broader rights yet. You got bupkis, in my non-professional opinion. Cover it, paint over it, or move.
My 2 cents.
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07-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Washington MO
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Name : Rick Hice
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Originally Posted by Gannet
Are we talkin' about pictures of mostly-nekkid ladies? Pictures that could not be shown on TV for fear of violating the FCC obscenity rules? Picures of ladies "dressed" so that, if real ladies were walking down the street that way, they would be arrested for indecent exposure?
If so, IMO it is at the least tacky to have these painted on your car. I don't blame people for complaining, and I don't blame the complex for acting on those complaints. It's an apartment, you're living cheek-by-jowl with other people, you have to make certain compromises when you decide on apartment living. Or buy a townhouse...or a condo...or a house with a homeowner's association...etc.
You don't have a 1st Amendment right to be "obscene". While I don't personally agree with that interpretation of the phrase "no law", that's what the Supreme Court says. Reasonable restrictions can be placed on "obscene" speech by governments, and private property owners have broader rights yet. You got bupkis, in my non-professional opinion. Cover it, paint over it, or move.
My 2 cents.
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I thought you saw the picture ... Oh well, did I tell I think your exhaust is too loud which makes it "obscene".
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07-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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Wassup!!!
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Ummmmmm....
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Originally Posted by Gannet
Are we talkin' about pictures of mostly-nekkid ladies? Pictures that could not be shown on TV for fear of violating the FCC obscenity rules? Picures of ladies "dressed" so that, if real ladies were walking down the street that way, they would be arrested for indecent exposure?
If so, IMO it is at the least tacky to have these painted on your car. I don't blame people for complaining, and I don't blame the complex for acting on those complaints. It's an apartment, you're living cheek-by-jowl with other people, you have to make certain compromises when you decide on apartment living. Or buy a townhouse...or a condo...or a house with a homeowner's association...etc.
You don't have a 1st Amendment right to be "obscene". While I don't personally agree with that interpretation of the phrase "no law", that's what the Supreme Court says. Reasonable restrictions can be placed on "obscene" speech by governments, and private property owners have broader rights yet. You got bupkis, in my non-professional opinion. Cover it, paint over it, or move.
My 2 cents.
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