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08-27-2013, 05:44 PM
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The Bad Guy That DIDN'T Get Away!
Meet Stanley Torgerson, owner of International Classic Auctions and an automobile dealership, the Arizona Connection. In 2011, Stanley was charged with 100 counts of Fraudulent Schemes and Artifices and a single count of Theft. He faced life in prison.
The smooth-talking auctioneer/car salesman (aren't they all?) worked out a plea deal, where he pled guilty to just four of those counts, and was sentenced to prison for thirty-nine months, followed by a lengthly probation.
The convictions stem from cars sold by Torgerson but never delivered, as well as cars auctioned by ICA without payment to the sellers. More than fifty buyers and sellers were the victims, and Torgerson netted nearly $750,000 from his scam.
Initially, Torgerson claimed HE was the victim, saying the thefts were related to an embezzlement scheme created by some of his employees, but an investigation by agents assigned to the prosecutor's office revealed that the stolen proceeds were actually spent on Torgerson's family members, personal expenses and other business ventures.
If it's any consolation to those he screwed, Torgerson will be paying up to $1.5 million in restitution to his victims, with the final amount determined during a payment hearing scheduled for the middle of next month.
Torgerson's victims are outraged. Few believe they'll ever see any of the negotiated restitution.
How he was able to continue to scam his clients for a couple years is beyond me. How he successfully negotiated the possibility of life in prison down to a mere thirty-nine month sentence (he'll serve about 2½ years) is beyond me, too!
But then again, he IS a smooth-talking car salesman AND an auctioneer!
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08-27-2013, 05:48 PM
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Pretty much par for the course for the legal system...... 
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08-27-2013, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Z
Pretty much par for the course for the legal system...... |
There's another word for that scenario,  but being this is a family forum, I'll pass on repeating it.
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08-27-2013, 06:54 PM
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!ereH nI depparT m'I pleH
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Name : Andy Anderson
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Yeah..........starts with the word Cluster!
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08-28-2013, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by navy2kcoupe
Yeah..........starts with the word Cluster!
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WORD 
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08-28-2013, 11:01 AM
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Maybe he will drop a bar of soap in the shower.......... 
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Liberty... Is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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08-28-2013, 11:19 AM
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!ereH nI depparT m'I pleH
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Name : Andy Anderson
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NAH! He was in the Navy and keeps his soap on a rope around his neck. 
Andy
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08-28-2013, 01:09 PM
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Guys (at least down here) probation has always a "hang mans noose" So many conditions to comply with that completion was a challenge and believe me, believe me, a detective would drop a dime on even the smallest of VOPs and could change the whole course of events after that. Conditions like failure to report contact with LEO for something as simple as a traffic stop warning without reporting it to your PO is a VOP and their are so many others. 
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08-31-2013, 09:56 AM
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The reality is that its just a "property crime" and the "system" doesn't punish thieves hard enough.
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